AgoraRDM Co-Founder Mike LaRosa was interviewed by MarketScale’s Building Management podcast on 1/08/19.

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Underutilized space is all around us. Rather than sitting on their hands, creative building managers are rolling up their sleeves and finding ways to put this space to work for them. Whether it’s opening a co-working space in a restaurant during the day when business is slow, or repurposing an old department store or mall to be used as a school, these spaces are changing the way we think of how facilities can be used. On today’s episode of the podcast, we talk to two people at the forefront of this movement. MarketScale correspondent Sean Heath speaks with Gary Kuklin from the Commercial Division of Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices about repurposing spaces for many different uses. We also have a conversation with Mike LaRosa of Agora RDM about co-working spaces can fill the space void in locations that aren’t traditionally thought of as an office.


Building managers are consistently faced with a question: how do I make the best use of the space I have available? Co-working spaces are providing an intriguing answer to that question. Mike LaRosa, Co-Founder of Agora RDM, joined the podcast to explain how businesses are using space that is underutilized at certain points of the day to set up co-working spaces.

“A lot of players have woken up and realized they have a lot of underutilized space they’re paying rent for,” says LaRosa. Turning this space into a co-working area allows the business to subsidize their rent and put their full facility to use. He goes on to explain one his favorite examples of a business putting this plan into practice. How did a yoga studio leverage their open space during the day to become a hot co-working spot? Mike LaRosa has all the details.


When taking a trip to the mall, you might expect to learn a lesson about sales, customer service, or traffic patterns in a parking lot. You probably don’t expect to learn 7th grade Biology or 5th grade Mathematics. If you live in Council Bluffs, Iowa, though, that is exactly what could happen.

On today’s podcast, MarketScale correspondent Sean Heath had the chance to chat with Gary Kuklin  from the Commercial Division of Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices. We discuss the open mindset necessary to be able to proceed with unexpected surroundings, the mutual benefits of repurposing existing spaces, and how this might become the norm instead of an outlier.

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Your Team Needs Training Wheels

I’ve never met a coworking space operator that hasn’t lamented the difficulty of finding and hiring a community manager. Candidates are either too expensive, too inexperienced, or once they are settled in, they find a better gig somewhere else. You’re probably already rolling your eyes thinking “Duh, Captain Obvious.” Fine, then. Go ahead and roll them. But before you do, hear me out.

It’s been three years since a chance encounter helped me realize the extent of the staffing challenge our industry faces. I’ll never forget it. I’d just finished a tour of a space and stepped into the elevator with a young woman on the verge of tears. Not three floors into our journey, she broke down, sharing she’d just interviewed for a community manager role. The problem was she felt utterly unprepared for the interview.

A quick rundown of her work history and experience led me to realize she’d be perfect for the role. The problem wasn’t her. It was the fact that the space had an overly vague job description and little to no hiring procedures. On top of that, when searching “community manager,” she found information about online communities rather than a physical one.

In such an innovative or *shudder* disruptive industry of ours, there’s a learning curve for jobs that didn’t exist 20–30 years ago. What’s surprising, however, is the fact that operators (both big and small) are creating these pain points themselves. How? Simply due to a lack of foundational hiring and training processes. You don’t need a 300-page bureaucratic training manual to quickly and easily nip some of these problems in the bud.

It All Starts With A Job Description

Sure, there are plenty of Community Manager job descriptions that you can find online. But, are you actually taking the necessary time and attention to customize them for your space? There are plenty of folks that I’ve spoken with that say, “But it worked for them…” Sure, it worked for them, but do they describe your specific space? This industry is unlike many others, sharing knowledge via the Coworking Wiki or the Coworking Google group. We don’t stop to think about how our business is different from another’s space.

The amount of time you put into crafting a good job description will pay off ten fold when you find that needle in the haystack of candidates.

Be honest! I can’t tell you about the space (NDA) that was afraid to list membership sales in the roles and responsibilities section and then got upset when their new hires didn’t embrace that part of their job.

Be creative! I’ll never forget reading some of the original job descriptions from NextSpace way back in the day. Iris, Rebecca, and the team did such a great job crafting the description of each job’s role. What was really impressive was how everyone in the organization had listed tasks like, “Clean up any visible spills or messes.” It really displayed their focus on team spirit and how everyone contributed no matter their title.

Focus On Where You’re Looking

Personally, I recommend that you start your recruiting process by checking out local employees at coffee shops, recreation centers, or hotels. You might think you’re hiring for the real estate industry, but you’re actually hiring for a hospitality role. If you witness a barista that goes above and beyond for their grumpy, caffeine-deprived customers at 5 AM or a front desk attendant who is perky and friendly in the middle of the night, you’ve found someone who might very well be a fantastic community manager.

Candidates Are Interviewing You As Much As You Are Interviewing Them

Not everyone has hired people before, and that’s not a bad thing. That said, you need to have some sort of interview process in place before you start soliciting applications. We’ve all submitted for jobs never to hear back from the company again, or worse, to be told months later we didn’t get it. Yeah, no shit Sherlock. In this tight labor market, good candidates (i.e. the ones you want) are getting multiple offers. How you are presenting yourself, your space, and the team is more important than how much they impress you.

With as much sharing as there is in this industry, there’s not a lot of transparency when it comes to the actual interviewing process. That was, of course, until Indy Hall shared their experience. An OG of the industry, anyone who is anyone in coworking knows Alex Hillman, Adam Teterus, and the Indy Hall story. Recently they went through the process of hiring a new Community Manager and OMG! the insights they provided by documenting it are priceless.

Tell: They’ll Probably Forget. Teach: They Might Remember. Involve: They’ll Learn.

Ok, so your job description is spot on. You found a great candidate, and the interview process felt like a match made in heaven. What else is there to worry about? Well, the most crucial part of the process, of course! Training! Henry Ford put it best, “The only thing worse than training your employees and having them leave is not training them and having them stay.” 

Maybe you’re just so relieved to finally have someone help you manage your community and oversee your space that you drop them in without adequate training. Perhaps that’s how you learned the business or were hired/on-boarded yourself. Either way, I believe inadequate training is the biggest issue when it comes to employee retention.

What Starbucks Taught Me About Training

During my tenure as a store manager and training specialist for Starbucks, I learned the importance of respecting the training process as much as, if not more than, the hiring process. At every step, each responsibility was clearly documented and broken down into a process that built upon the next one. It makes sense right? It’s easier to steam milk to make a cappuccino once you know how to do so for a latte. Just as it is easier to sell coworking once you understand the different benefits of the memberships at the space.

It’s quite likely that this person has never worked for, or even been in, a coworking space before. Your job is to make them feel welcome and comfortable. Ensure that you have some type of coverage for your space while you’re training your new employee, or communicate to members ahead of time that you’ll be out of pocket for a few hours each day that first week. Far too many times I’ve seen someone come to their first day and sit around while waiting for the owner to “get to them.” 

When Training, Failure to Plan is Planning to Fail

Be sure you have all the admin/HR/login/paperwork stuff ready to go ahead of time. You also want to limit the amount of time spent on training and provide time for them to digest everything they’ve learned. Give them the lay of the land, introduce them to members, and have lunch. After that? Let them try out different parts of the space or send them home with some assignments to prep for the next day.

Go over the basics of the job and not just how it’s done, but why it’s done. Pardon the Starbucks references, but when you taste a bad espresso shot and a good espresso shot it’s way more likely that trainees wouldn’t skip out on steps once they saw the why. Build up to various responsibilities and provide them with tools that help guide them. You shouldn’t expect them to be flying on their own until at least a full week or two on the job.

Without diving too far down the rabbit hole, don’t be tempted to cut corners just because you think you don’t have the time for it now. The takeaway I encourage you to always remember is to put yourself in their shoes. Think back on a time when you had a less-than-stellar interview or perhaps no training on day one. This will help you remember the importance of properly hiring, training, and on-boarding your next new hire.

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